Wednesday, January 11, 2017

Oh-GeeDub?

Dug this claret in San Jose. It is 12 inches tall with an applied top, and a faint mold line around the shoulder. There are diagonal twist marks below the shoulder indicative if a "twist". Is this an OGW?





How about them colored wines - minus that one on the left!
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  1. WesternglassaddictJanuary 11, 2017 at 4:26 PM

    Never even washed this one...if it is OGW, I will. :)
    DM

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  2. Rick SimiJanuary 11, 2017 at 4:37 PM

    Now tell us the truth Dale - Being a BOX wine drinker did you know this was a claret style bottle before seeing an example on the Western Bottle News?
    rs

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  3. WesternglassaddictJanuary 11, 2017 at 5:20 PM

    Heck no! I had no clue, and my biggest concern was the day's or week's vintage of my box wine. Ahhh Thursday, the best vintage. Ready to start drinking the good stuff.. "Two Buck Chuck".

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  4. robgarbJanuary 11, 2017 at 5:27 PM

    Rick,I think everyone would like to participate in this discussion,the problem is it is not an embossed bottle as per usual ,and no label ,so who would know what would destinguish an OGW bottle from any other?,if a description could be found of a particular feature that could be attributed to OKG then progress might be made.I would be interested to know why all three bottles I have have the deep punt bottom and a dimple at the highest point of the bottom,the labeled bottle that I sent has a very deep dimple there in the punt,that is very sharp and about 3/4" tall ,does anyone know why these bottles have the dimple?,is this common to non USA manufacturer?

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  5. Rick SimiJanuary 11, 2017 at 6:46 PM

    The point of these posts is to get input from folks to try and pinpoint some feature on the bottles or to uncover some documentation that proves what is a OGW claret bottle. So far we know that OGW manufactured (or tried to) claret style bottles,that they had a kickup base and they were a twist, or turn mold bottle. I think we are on the right track and the pictures you and other folks sent in are clues to the mystery.

    Who knows maybe someone will come up with a embossed bottle, a news clipping or some other form of documentation that will prove that OGW successfully manufactured and sold claret bottles.
    rs

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  6. Numa.GJanuary 12, 2017 at 10:53 AM

    This one looks like it could be an OGW. If someone comes across another example of a wine in this mold dug in a mid 80s or later context layer that matches one of the OGW ammonia colors......then you really may have something......

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  7. WesternglassaddictJanuary 12, 2017 at 11:05 AM

    This one definitely came from mid 80s context...I agree that an example like this in deep blue green would be a step closer...

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  8. DaleJanuary 12, 2017 at 12:25 PM

    Just my two cents. Based on the fact that OGW base embossed " OGW " Demijohns have been found in a dark pink color and not being educated on the color spectrum that these claret bottles come in, I wanted to ask if any western dug / found claret bottles have been found in a dark pink color ?

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  9. WesternglassaddictJanuary 12, 2017 at 1:04 PM

    I have never seen a pink wine...as for base embossing, it would be extremely difficult to emboss "OGW" on a deep kick up base in a mold which has been "twisted". I think that once OGW decided to copy French Claret bottles, they went all the way and made them basic olive green. Lot's of good dialogue here.

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  10. Numa.GJanuary 13, 2017 at 2:10 PM

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  11. Numa.GJanuary 13, 2017 at 2:19 PM

    I think it is amazing how many OGW flasks are in collections given the short period that the factory produced bottles. I'd guess there are over 30 pint and half pint flasks in collections ? Maybe over 20 OGW ammonias in collections ? I'm sure there are at least a few of these clarets out there, especially since they were so focused on them. Based on the articles I have seen, it seems that the demise was related to financial issues and not quality issues. If it was the quality, there would not be so many flasks and ammonias known ? While we are at it, how many different OGW bottles are out there ?

    I have seen: (1 broken) rectangular medicine, (1 broken) small citrate style bottle, ammonias, demijons, half pint and pint flaks, square bitters, and whiskey 5ths.

    OGW made fruit jars, has anyone seen one ? They also made 'hock bottles' finished in the turn mold method..........

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    1. Rick SimiJanuary 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM

      Oh great - now I have to dig out my boxes of hock wines to check for OGW's

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  12. DaleJanuary 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM

    I can account for 5 OGW Demijohns, two in amber, two in dark pink and 1 in light pink. I would be quite interested to know if the demijohns exist in any other colors ?

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